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Industrial Waste… part 5

I do apologize for not being able to wrap this up sooner. It’s a big topic and I’m trying to do it justice, but at the same time there are oodles of other things going on here that I’d like to write about and scant amount of time to do so. Here are 7 points I would like to throw out there. No pictures. No frills. Just my two-cents worth and a hope that you will add yours.

1. Boys are made for work. I’m not pigeon-holing males into a meat-head role here, but Genesis 2 is very clear that God created Adam first and “put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and keep it.” This was his primary created role and he was perfectly equipped to fulfill it. This role was also the subject of his subsequent curse, “By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread till you return to the ground.”

2. For thousands of years that is exactly what boys grew up doing. They worked. And when they weren’t working, they played. Except for a few exceptions who were devoted to scholarly work at a young age, most would already be apprenticing for a career by 14.

3. With the advent of the printing press, Reformers like Martin Luther envisioned an entire population that could read the Bible for themselves (a noble and worthy goal) and primary schools were born.

4. The Industrial Revolution took this concept to an entirely new level with the effort to create a uniformly educated workforce universally equipped for factory operations.

5. Until the last century the purpose of schooling was to either provide a rudimentary
understanding of reading, writing and arithmetic or to prepare a student for a career particularly conducive to academic rigors.

6. Fast forward 100 years and social engineers now have boys as young as 3 years old spending the vast majority of their time in a classroom setting for the next 15 years of their life. Add to that the immense pressure to continue into higher education and another 2-6 years in an industry they possibly neither like nor excel at. Nor is this prolonged existence in academia any guarantee of a profitable career. There are some careers that necessitate a long and arduous classroom education. And I reiterate my awareness of those boys who thrive in a classroom setting. But the sad by-product of the education industry is the vast population of boys who not only fail to thrive in the classroom setting, but are also deprived of years and years of potential development actually doing what they were created to do.

7. Boys want to be good at something. It’s part of the drive God instilled in them. If they find out early on that that something is school then by all means cheer them on in that regard. But if the classroom is just not their thing, then give them a chance earlier on than 18 to find out what is! By 18 that drive to succeed may be already wasted due to the years of frustrating failure being forced to do what they are just not made for! That is industrial waste of epic proportions.

The video below has been widely circulated for a while now but I thought it illustrated a few of my points well.

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24 thoughts on “Industrial Waste… part 5

  1. 110% spot on…the damage done to the souls of many boys by industrial education is like a death by a thousand cuts…unschooling is the remedy!

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    • Unschooling is certainly an option, as are homeschools, private schools, public charter schools, tech schools, trade schools, etc… The point is to stop sacrificing what best benefits our boys for the sake of the bureaucracy. There is so much fear over upsetting the status quo that we continue herding our struggling boys like lemmings over a cliff. Great to hear from you!

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  2. Love this way of thinking, I am a terrible test taker and I’m not that good in school but I’m good at solving actual problems. I think that it is very smart to let kids find out what they are good at before the age of 18 because I’m 16 and i just figured out what i want to be. Ive told my parents plenty of times that i wish i could study what I’m interested in and not go to school. Its not that i don’t like school, its that I’m interested in learning about a job that i would like to succeed in. I believe that a hard worker is better than a lazy educated worker. If the person likes there job it isn’t a job and they will work hard in it and succeed. I totally love the idea of divergent thinking and how useful it really is. I am not a fan of the factory setup.

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    • Wow, Michael! I can tell you’ve already done some thinking on this subject. I’ve heard many employers echo your point about preferring a hard-working employee who is willing to learn over a well-educated one with no work ethic. Your thoughts are well formulated and I sense your passion. If I could give you any advice it would be to use the spare time that you do have to study those things that really do interest you. It’s amazing how much you can learn outside of school. Great job. Mrs. McEntee

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      • Hey Mrs. McEntee, I enjoyed reading your blog and highly agree with your opinion. I find myself thinking during school, when will I use this in my career or why can’t we be learning something more beneficial. Just like you i notice how each individual has different talents and a different mind set’s. I think that if I geared my studies and time towards the job I enjoyed then my passion and work rate towards the job would increase. This would be both beneficial for myself and others around me. I agree with all your thought’s and love your idea’s that support divergent thinking and it would like to hear more from you.

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      • Thank you, Riley. I appreciate your kind remarks. We all find ourselves questioning how we will use the circumstances we are placed under and cannot forget that God has an amazing plan for each of us which includes some of the very things we might not see as beneficial at the time. The point is to remember that God equipped you for work and that through Him you have everything you need to succeed at what He has in store for you. When school seems a waste of time or you’re feeling like you’re just not measuring up remember that God has far greater things in store for you and do everything you can in your spare time to prepare for that moment. Great comment. Mrs. McEntee

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  3. Although I agree with some of these points I have found a few problems with it. I agree that our education is too standardized and could even limit the children’s imagination. If we are all being taught to be “normal” than why would we want to be different. But I could see non mandatory school abused. There are parents that do not have a strong belief on education. Those households may let their children to do whatever they want. And with our generation, I could see many children getting in trouble. If freedom is given too early than I could children becoming lazy instead of actually striving for success.
    School not only teaches the children physically but also mentally. I think that school helps a child to become discipline and mature. It is essential for children to learn with kids the same age and problem solve together. Also school can teach children to manage their time well and let them figure out the consequences by them selves in a low risk environment.
    School is not perfect. I agree that it is too broad and does not allow the children to find out what we really enjoy. But I also believe that school teaches us not only physical skills for our life but also social skills. Neither way is perfect and it never will be. I am not against the idea of children pursuing their dreams, but I am skeptic about it actually working out at a young age.

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    • Great points, James! You are right about one of the dangers of giving families the freedom to decide what is best for their children is that some families will make choices which benefit no one. I completely agree that teenagers roaming the streets with no accountability isn’t an ideal situation. But is the solution really to effectively imprison all rather than find more creative means to deal with few? You are also correct in pointing out all the potential benefits of traditional schools: teaching physical, mental, social and life skills, such as discipline, maturity, problem solving, and time management. But the question remains if that is the ONLY setting in which these things can be taught and are the methods used effective for teaching everyone? I admire your skepticism. It means you’re really thinking about it! Thank you so much for your well thought out comments, Mrs. McEntee

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  4. Wow, what a great blog! I immensely enjoyed the seventh statement about giving boys a chance to find out early what they are capable of. I am a total believer of letting us as humans choose what path we want to take in life. It doesn’t half to be the working path, nor the education factor. But as a believer, we should be called to take a path/working field that God wants us to take.
    What I believe is that every kid, no matter what should at least take some simple schooling so at they are not as dumb as a rock. But when they hit that point of knowing what they want to do with their lives, then we shall let them choose whether to press on with the academic studies or not. Thank you for introducing this idea into my mind. I really love you thoughts and I enjoyed your writing!
    -E-swizel

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    • Thank you, Esai, for your kind remarks. I totally agree with your point that a minimum amount of schooling so “they are not as dumb as a rock” is surely beneficial to everyone. But how many years do you think it should take to get your average person reading, writing, and doing enough basic math to make it in life? 5 years, 10 years, 13-15? Does school need to start quite so early and be dragged on quite so long? I also couldn’t agree more that as believers we should have the freedom to follow whatever path God is calling us to and to pursue whatever training would assist us in living out His perfect plan for our life. Don’t ever let anything get in the way of what you know He would have you do. Excellent thoughts. Mrs. McEntee

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  5. I do very much agree that there should be more options available to boys or all kids than just schooling past an age of about 16. I myself have often thought about occupations in work fields which would not require high school education. I believe that if high school level education could be tied into apprenticeship training or trade schools, it would effectively teach students basic education that a high school diploma would give, but allow them to receive both this education and skills for a job in a much faster manner. This would allow these young men and women to get ahead faster in their work fields and it could cut years of frustration of being forced to think and learn a set curriculum a set way. If basic education was interwoven with training for these jobs, it would also motivate these students to excel in their studies as they push to excel in their training. I think that for some higher education is the pathway and for some its not. We shouldn’t force one way and not open the door to another.

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    • Great comments, Taylor. Very well thought out points. Your last one really summed up what I’m trying to get across the most: it does a everyone a disservice when we minimize options in favor of a universal path. The more choices our young people have regarding their education and training, the better we are able to equip them to effectively carry out the special plan God has for each of their lives. Keep thinking! Mrs. McEntee

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  6. I strongly agree with this idea.
    I think that if schools were better individualized and made to suit the needs of all children, rather than just the needs of those “who thrive in a classroom setting”, the world would see a much larger percentage of youths that know what their calling is early on in life. I personally am a hands-on learner. In other words, I need to physically do something before I can fully understand the material being taught. However, most schools do not teach in support of this way of learning. Because of this I do not have even a slight idea of what I want to be when I am older. Another key flaw of the standard schooling system that I would like to point out is its length of day. I believe that a kindergarteners school day should be significantly shorter than a 12th graders school day. If younger children’s days were shorter, they would be able to find out wether they were meant for school or something else much more easily, and then if they were meant for school they could simply stay in the schooling system.
    I enjoyed reading your blog Mrs. McEntee. Thank You.

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    • Great response, Sean. You are definitely not alone in your propensity for “hands-on learning.” It really is too bad there are not more opportunities to learn in this way. But unfortunately we now live in “The Information Age” rather than “The Experiential Age” and you are going to have to work hard to find the occasions for actually doing the things that would help you learn. I also totally agree with your point about the long school day. Classroom exposure is great for little ones but children need to know that there are other arenas in their world for them to succeed in. Keep thinking AND doing. Mrs. McEntee

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  7. I do agree with many of your points, God did create man to work. But he did not create man to work alone. “As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it.”(Genesis 9:7) When god created man he created them in his own image. (Genesis 1:27) All men are in gods image but it is not hard to tell all men are different. In order to be able to function in daily life, a man must not be secluded and therefor exempt from the way of thinking of others. The problem Is communication. If all men think divergently they are all thinking on a hire level. If all men think divergently there are trillions of different possible reactions, out comes, answers, to questions found trivial by the standard thinker. For he knows what the other standard thinker meant when he asked for a cup of coffee. He did not wonder if he wanted a cup of raw beans, flowers form the plant, a shovel in which to move dirt in the coffee field, or to buy a coffee planation. Simply put there is a time and use for everything, and boys should grow up and, in the end, be able to consciously choose the state of mind to be in at the time of there choosing allowing harmony in the overall picture. Moving past just the physical likeness but to the mental one. So men can work together with the least confusion or friction possible. If you under stand both the finite and infinite ways of thinking and can communicate them, then you can call yourself free.

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  8. Those are some really profound thoughts, William. It is very interesting that God gave man those two directives: to work and to increase in number. But because of our fallen world the number one frustration of any job is other people! It was an amazing gift of God to create us all as free, independent thinkers but that does make communication a challenge. The role of education isn’t just to impart the appropriate skills to get the job done but to train an individual to communicate and work well with others. The question then arrises: Is the most effective way to learn how to work with individuals completely different from yourself to spend 13 or more years of your life almost exclusively with others of the same age and socio-economic background as yourself in a setting that operates intrinsically by conformity? That might indeed produce less “confusion and friction” but it potentially creates a thinker that is anything but free.
    I thoroughly enjoyed your response. Well done! Mrs. McEntee

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  9. I completely agree with your way of thinking and the points mentioned in the video. I remember hearing from another source that if our schooling system changed two simple things about it, we would produce a new group of thinkers that are better equipped to tackle an ever-changing society.
    Number one is: Get rid of the foreign language class. Not only is it obsolete with programs like Google translate, I know from personal experience from my current education, that no one takes it seriously. A better option would be to make it an option course.
    Second is: Do not place kids in the same class based on age. If a high school senior has troubles with a freshman or sophomore algebra course, then why is he or she required to struggle or at the very least cram what he just learned into a brief summer. A more successful approach would be to put the similarly skilled students together and help out the ones who are struggling with their academics, not continually put them down and judge them based upon their close in age peers.

    The thought that college leads to a job is very outdated indeed. College is an opportunity to further your education to give you a better chance at life. Boys in general at school may be book savvy or more hands-on. Constricting the mind will not further it. The points you listed above are very valid and applicable in today’s society. I like your way of looking past the old ways of thinking and seeing around the obstacles to discover a different path, instead of continuing to travel on it.

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    • Thank you for the comments, Matthew! Those are very interesting changes suggested by your source. I’m very curious how he or she narrowed it down to those two in particular. But it seems they struck a chord with you and you could definitely relate. You have clearly put a lot of thought into this topic and engaged it well. Keep thinking! Mrs. McEntee

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  10. I really agree with point number 7, that we should be able to explore our options outside of what we constantly do at school. Honestly, school feels like a repetitive thing and has caused a routine to be formed out of that, that all of us need to follow, causing the dislike of school. Its like if you play a song too many times and eventually gets old. Having opportunities to do find what we love to do and excel at it, provides the wanting to learn to be better at what you are doing. Pushing yourself to be the best you can be, but also enjoying what you do.

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  11. I certainly agree with this. The academic world puts so much focus on forcing students to think a certain way, as if that’s the only sign of intelligence! Kids should be free to explore what they want without feeling like there’s something wrong with their interests. There’s more to being smart than memorizing numbers. I find it hard to believe that the world will collapse if students get to choose what they want to learn about from an early age.

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  12. I partly agree with this because I do believe that kids should focus on something that they love and want to pursue as a career. On the other hand though I do not agree with this because what if they change their mind and decide to be something else or maybe they do not want to pursue that and now they have no idea what they want. School is a great place to figure out what you want to be because you have all of these classes to take and by taking these classes you can find out what interest’s you and what does not. I think it all depends on what works for you. For some people it is school and for others it is going out on their own to pursue their passion. There is nothing wrong with either one of them and I think they both should be encouraged to do what they want to do and ow they want to do it.

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  13. I agree with this idea. I don’t think that we should be put into groups based on our age that can limit creative thinking. I also agree that throughout the years, divergent thinkers minds were changed to think as everyone else, with no creativity. I wish in school we could learn more practical tools for everyday life. Less repetition in the classroom and instead, learn new ideas and concepts. Schools should focus on each student, to individualize the learning around each students needs.

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